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Meta releases Llama 3, an open-weights AI model with 8B and 70B parameter versions

The new model, available in two sizes, and Hacker News commenters say the 70B model is in the same class as Claude 3 Sonnet and ahead of GPT-3.5, with a larger 400B parameter version still in training.

Meta today released Llama 3, the next generation of its large language model, available in 8 billion and 70 billion parameter sizes. Meta says the release is industry leading. A 400 billion parameter version is still training and expected in the coming months.

The models are released under a license, and Hacker News commenters quickly point out that it is not truly open source. One commenter called it ‘open weight, not open source,’ while another emphasized the need to use terms like ‘weights-available’ to avoid open-washing. Others defended Meta’s approach as a good balance that enables fine-tuning and deployment without demanding full reproducibility of training.

The community is buzzing with speculation about the impact. Some see it as a threat to OpenAI and Google, while others expect it to benefit the broader ecosystem by lowering barriers. One commenter links a Colab notebook for LoRA fine-tuning Llama 3 8B. The lack of comparisons to GPT-4 and Claude Opus in Meta’s announcement has not gone unnoticed, but the promise of a future 400B model keeps the conversation lively.

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Hacker News commenter bbig

noted Meta's chatbot interface at meta.ai and the lack of comparisons to GPT-4-Turbo or Claude Opus, suggesting it is far from a frontier model.

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Hacker News commenter CuriouslyC

argued the 70B model compares favorably to Claude 3 Sonnet and is within striking distance of Opus and GPT-4, with the advantage of open fine-tuning.

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Hacker News commenter blackeyeblitzar

criticized Meta for calling Llama open-source, noting the license discriminates against users and uses, and called for calling it open-weight instead.

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Hacker News commenter LrnByTeach

speculated on winners and losers from the release, predicting Nvidia and OpenAI would be hurt while AMD, Intel, and universities would benefit.

One year later — open only if you can handle spoilers

Llama 3 would become one of the most popular open-weights model families, but the 400B version never materialized as a single model; instead, Meta later released Llama 3.1, a 405B parameter model, in July 2024. The open-source debate intensified, with the OSI defining 'open source AI' in 2025.

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